Mr. Anantharam Varayur, Executive Director, BNI Bangalore India & Sumathy Anantharam, Partner of Manasum Buildtech LLP.
Introduction by Satish Rao – In this episode I am having an interesting talk with Anantharam Varayur who is the Executive Director of BNI Bangalore.
He has had some amazing success with taking up serious sports and dealing with Diabetes without resorting to any medications. In fact, he stayed away from medications for more than a decade by just taking care of his health and ENJOYING his regular dose of long distance running.
Another person in this episode is Sumathy Anantharam, Partner of Manasum Buildtech LLP. Manasum is into building Upscale Retirement Homes. She is passionate about health for elders, which she developed and discovered through her simple act of taking care of her elderly family members. She is a firm believer that home remedies, the knowledge for which has been handed over to us over generations, are extremely useful in keeping us and our elderly in a state of health and fitness. One could resort to taking medications only when these fail to give relief. She is a firm believer that it is extremely important to keep the elders in a positive state of mind. With Manasum Buildtech, she is truly living her passion of taking care of elders.
Satish Rao – Over to my guests! So hello we have today with us Anantharam who is the executive director of BNI Bangalore And we have Sumathi who is the Director and Partner of Manasum Buildtech LLP., which is into premium retirement homes Very happy to have you here.
Anantharam & Sumathy – Thank you sir. Thank you very much
Satish Rao – So, I have been interacting with both of you over the last few weeks turns out that you have very interesting facets to you in terms of your perspective over heath and wellness and preventive health care. So, I just want to bring that out from you. So, I would like to begin with Ananth asking him as to some health challenges that he faced somewhere in the last few years and how he got to know about it what is the full story around it?
Anantharam Varayur – Yeah actually, see my family has got a history of Diabetes right from my grandmother and my father and then to me actually.. so, I became Diabetic at the age of 40 okay, so at that age I used to go along with my father for routine check-up and in one of the check-up I thought, okay let me also check.
Then suddenly, my sugar level was quite high, which I have never noticed actually. In fact, that all happened when I was in one seminar somebody told me that I have gone down. So how is it that you are maintaining such a fantastic health and fitness. Then I said, boss I am not into any fitness I don’t know how I have gone down. Then someone else pointed out that it could be because of sugar. So that’s the reason.
When I went and checked that along with my father so then I realised that my sugar level had shot up so then the doctor gave me two options. He was a fantastic doctor so he gave me two options Ananth, either you want me to start your medication now
Or you want your medication to be postponed for 5 years.
I said, okay I want to postpone it for 5 years then he said okay. Do certain things what I say, so then I can do that. So, that’s the time I really became quite health conscious and then started getting into the various activities either both in diet as well as the physical activities so how old were you at that point of time?
Satish Rao – So, how old were you at that time.
Anantharama Varayur – I was 40 years old yeah.
Satish Rao – It would come as a shock to you that, although it is there in the family but when you come face to face with it is tough for you yeah. So, but you decided to take it in your own hands And what did you do?
Anantharam Varayur – Yeah, So that’s quite interesting Actually what happened
See, throughout in my life I was not a what do you call the Sports kind of a guy, okay.
Satish Rao – But you play cricket right?
Anantharam Varayur – Yeah Cricket, that’s a good story. Like in my whole of school days, so I used to be a part of every cricket match
Satish Rao – Wow
Anantharam Varayur – You know why? Because I was the only guy in the school who had the bat so, that is the only reason why I was a part of a cricket team. And then usually I’ll be 12th or 13th man, okay. So I’ll be sitting under the tree and once the match is over I’d take my bat and go home okay. That’s my sports in the school days.
So then, what happened was the Doctor said that You’re now in the bracket of the Diabetes thing. Then I said okay Let me do something so then I started walking. So then I used to walk in Krishna Rao park. So there, every day when I was walking it was actually it was boring, okay so, because it was so much boring. Then I saw some people running there so I thought okay, Let me also start running, and see. And then I started running
So it was very nice. I mean, I really enjoyed and then So during that particular time somewhere I saw the advertisement. For that first Sunfeast.. Now it is TCS 10k marathon. Those days it used to be Sunfeast.
Satish Rao – Right
Anantharam Varayur – So there was one advertisement and then I thought okay, can I also do this? 10km. So then I came home I told my father So then from next day onwards I was just running So what I used to do is – Everyday so, actually in Krishna Rao park there is marking on the walkway. There is a marking about 50mts. For every 50mts there is a marking. So then, I told my father. So then I also what I decided is I did not want to risk myself. From one fine day running long distance. So, every day I used to increase it by only 50mts. Okay, that’s it. When I come home my father used to have a kind of a chart so he will write down in that How many meters I have passed, yeah.
Satish Rao – Progress
Anantharam Varayur – So every day only 50mts and then rest walk, like that. So, then one fine day without my knowledge I had done more than 5kms to 6kms. Then, the NRC that Nike run club started in Kanteerava
Then weekends I used to go there so, then do this progress
So within no time I had done 10k. Without even my knowledge
Okay, that’s how it started. In fact, later I became so much interested. It even went to my personal best even went up to 56mins. So 1 hour so 10k, yeah. That’s how, yeah.
Satish Rao – So I realize that you started off your journey into running with the idea that health has to be taken care yeah but now slowly you have come to a zone where you are enjoying the running so much that the benefits have far far outweighed the reason that you started and that’s the secondary benefit that you are getting yeah. So there is also fun in what you are doing.
Anantharam Varayur – Yeah now it is really, i mean I have taken literally. The running is so much interesting and then I have been running quite a lot of runs. In fact, a lot of half marathons I have done, okay. In the last BM (Bangalore Marathon), I did half marathon in less than 2 hours okay, 1 hour 59mins.
Satish Rao – Fantastic
Anantharam Varayur – So, that’s how it is. Then later actually I was preparing for full marathon right. But of course during that period. In one of the runs I injured my leg I fell down and had an accident and the fracture. So that’s how I took a little bit break but again…. My fracture is gone now back to running. After that fracture I did my Mumbai half marathon. So, hopefully planning to do a full this year.
Satish Rao – Fantastic
Anantharam Varayur – So I could be doing it very good, yeah. And the best part is now it’s almost more than 11 years now, okay. So I have not taken the medicine
Satish Rao – Oh wow okay
Anantharam Varayur – Very recently, about a month back I’ve just started with small dosage because, Doctors also felt that some of the damages which might have happened earlier so because of that I have to start with the little bit of medicine but otherwise I prefer to control everything through my diet and the natural things
Satish Rao – Fantastic. So you’ve managed to stay away from the medications
For almost close to 10 years yeah, 10 years+ yeah. And now it’s just a very small dose. Yeah, it’s a big thing actually. Because, the thing that a lot of people tend to immediately go for medications, yeah. And not take this very serious in the sense that so many things that you can do in terms of your own lifestyle changes which might seriously give you a heads up over the disease that you are battling.
Satish Rao – Sumathi, you have some interesting take from your perspective on preventive health and how to take charge so.
Sumathy Anantharam – Yeah, okay. My story is very different. I started my life as a sports person, I was a volley ball player State and have been in a lot of running and other things. And after my marriage Yes, because of a lot of commitments like any other lady says, I didn’t have time to go and do Lot of my exercises which was really hurting me. But over a period of time I got used to without any exercise but that was not that great because we definitely understand that as one ages, there is a lot of small small ailments which comes through, which make us understand that a small preventive care and small small exercises which is possible inside the house itself will make us more active because I had managed couple of businesses over the years
And have been a housewife as well as taking care of my parents, my relatives who were 10 of them, were not well and every time they were not well I had to go to the hospital and nurse them so that gave me a lot of insight and how we can really work without medicines. Because one feeling with the present generation is For everything, a small thing we go to the doctor and we say No this is a problem, that is a problem Shall I do this test. That is not required actually in the regular thing, Is what we felt. Because thanks to my mother’s side as well as my father-in-law’s side. Both of them were believers of natural remedies.
For example, when we were not well we were always given milk with turmeric as well as ginger, and make us drink and monthly once we had castor oil to be drunk so that our stomach is completely cleansed and these are all very forcible thing. But it really helped us in a long way, Head bath with a lot of oil on head, every 15 days once was a must in our house. And taking bath with wood boiled water. That is very very important. Now we are fully, technology wise we are grown up but I urge that they have to try once in while, just put a vessel outside Keep some wood and take that water and take bath you’ll have a different experience altogether and your muscle and your nerves relieves itself yeah so those are the things which always work and on the intake.
My father-in-law is very good example because, he has been diagnosed at 40. Again like Ananth was telling he was also diagnosed for sugar at age of 40 and now he is 86, so 46 years he has been working with lot of natural remedies than the small tablet what it takes he takes a very low 1 mg tablet even today but he has a lot of compensatory powder and other things what he takes early morning, he takes neem powder with amla powder and he mixes and he drinks it and again he has a green tea and then he starts his day with all the regular routines and in the evening he again goes back to the turmeric milk with little of fenugreek or whatever is possible he takes so all these and even
In our house if anybody is not well, the first and foremost thing that comes in mind is what we can cure naturally, right and I am not telling you have to avoid definitely if it persists you need to go back to the doctor and get it done but we need not have to panic right because that panic has to go and even the children at home, should feel if I am not well they have to come and share it with us because today if the children come and share next day morning they are taken to the doctor tests and other things which make them come into fear that should I really tell you that I am not well no, so that you can go very easily that if the child comes out he says, I am feeling very dizzy ok give them warm milk with some turmeric or boost and tell, you are alright don’t worry about it so they also get into the culture where it is not going to affect your lifestyle.
Don’t worry, it’s a small thing which you can come out of it so these are the small small techniques and if you are at home you are not able to do exercise, Do spot jogging and go up the stairs, down the stairs if you are if you have got at home since I am not going I have got a one thing that before 8 o’clock I would at least go 10 times up and down so which is my natural exercise and if you like music or anything when you put that and start your day that itself is a form of excercise is what I always feel because you give your personal time to your body that is very very important in what form, what the thing is depending of your body composition, you can decide then you can go upon
Satish Rao – So what you are also saying is that for kids it’s important for them to have a mind-set where they are a little free-er and easy going on health issue yeah and not put so much pressure on them and it brings me to an interesting perspective that I heard from one of my friend that she used to say that my dad used to have solution for any health problem he used to say just go and take a head bath, you know yeah. Just take a cold water shower depending on the weather outside, of course cold or hot weather just take a hot water or a cold water shower on your head and you’re fine. Yes. So, even with that simple philosophy sometimes in the mind if it works in the child’s mind that okay, I’m going to be fine with just a head bath or with just a glass of hot milk. So those also go a long way in clearing of a lot of doubts and the uncertainties that children face, you know on their health, you know.
Sumathy Anatharam – You will not believe, in fact just reminded me one of the incidents I had my father-in-law’s mother. Who was around 100, she stayed with me till 103 years and I was taking care of her day and night and whenever she is not well she used to tell me I used to just give her a warm water and give her a normal Disprin tablet and say this will make you alright and within 5 minutes she will see the difference she will say you know what, what tablet you gave me I became very alright I’m very energetic. I’m able to do a lot of things.
So many times, it is only our mental mind-set that yes, I am not well; I may not be able to do all these thing In fact, now as a passion we are coming out with a senior citizen home it’s a community of 110 houses there also it is a Holistic living what we are planning exactly the same way see when they see others of the same age coming out walking around, going and eating, coming around and doing a lot of small small exercises they feel, I can do it much better than them because I am also of the same age so that is very much important and secondly, they also discuss they also say in our family we don’t use medicines and all what I feel more important today is to leave the fear and get into your real mind-set that nothing can affect me that itself is 50% of the cure because that is one thing I learned because, at least I’ve stayed with my father, mother as well as my father and mother in law they have gone across three four major surgeries in their life after that lot of people use to ask, how are they?
They’ve forgotten what they got, that is the way we treat because, we don’t remind them at all so we tell them in such a way that you do not have this it’s over, you went in the operation theatre, it was done now you are a perfect person so don’t worry at all and that confidence make them to completely come out which today they call it as counselling they call their family member they say .. it is not required you have to be very clear that after the operation is over they are 100% normal as normal beings and treat them normal do not treat them as a patient that is a very important thing in the Holistic approach so when somebody is not well it is only for that period the minute they come out the minute you start telling that it is no way connected with this.
Because my father was having cancer so definitely we know that it is not going to cure very easily but the confidence what we give him made him survive for more than 8 years and every time he used to go to the operation you know what he will say me? Sumathy, you are there at post operation I’ll come out and till he comes out he will be with me only and for us it is like we discuss all things other than health you should not talk to me and we will have all worldly things to talk and that cures
Satish Rao – Sumathy, come to think to it, the perspective which you are talking about, the mind I think they say that, even doctors The best of doctors, when they step out of the operation theatre and they feel that the surgery has not gone to their satisfaction also they say it’s their moral obligation I have heard it come from big Doctors themselves, It’s a moral obligation for them to give a sense of you know, good feeling to the patient that the things have gone fine And everything is fine now. They will take care, you know. Perfectly you’ll be doing extremely well. So I think that mind-set plays a huge role in our own health I think what you were talking about makes sense.
Sumathy Anantharam – Yeah, see we have a lot of experience okay I have personally got experience because whenever my relatives or others are not well I take care of them the post operation and Stay with them in the hospital till they are discharged. So that I have been doing it now last 35 years and I am very happy about what I am doing that time I always used to tell the Doctors when they come in, I go out and I meet them and I say, when you come in any problems you tell me later on but when you meet the patient tell them that they are perfectly alright because the confidence they get when a Doctor says that you’re alright will solve 50% of their problem because today they know that, they are a professional person and when they say they are alright they will even act as if they are alright and they will start working on it which is very very important mental strength for anybody.
In fact, that is what today some Doctors are lacking behind because of the other issues what they face they try to tell that, no no patients have to know everything and they have to know what is a stage they are in I don’t agree at all in that because their kith and kin can know what is the real problem they are undergoing and the patient should be left carefree, see already physically they are affected why you want to load mentally also that they may not live, they have a terminal problem and their living in bonus years I think these are the words. The medical fraternity itself have to relook in telling the people Yeah, that makes a lot of sense yeah.
Satish Rao – And Ananth I think your experience and Sumathy’s experience of handling and taking care of elderly, within the family and your friends’ circle which comes out very clearly in your conversations. I think this is one of the good reasons for you to be you know, the right person and the right partners to be eligible for starting this Manasum project for elderly. So, what are the things that you are taking care in this project, in terms of health for the elderly.
Anantharam Varayur – Yeah actually, one is like why we started, okay, that’s also so because I used to see a lot of my friends who studied with me they have all gone abroad And here their parents are staying alone So, I use to feel that, okay How someone can take care of them Okay, that’s how we started this. And one more thing what happened sometime back when we went to one day we got a call from her father In Chennai saying that Few of his relatives and all those things they are all going for some South India tour kind of a thing then we checked up, who are all going then when we saw all of them are 70plus okay then we were wondering how are you going? Who is there to take care of you they said, no, we are going then we said no, nothing doing and then we are coming okay then myself and Sumathy, we joined them okay, for 10 days we were with them okay so that’s the time we were wondering because all their children and everybody are either I mean one couple they were not having the children the other people they are all settled elsewhere so then these people wanted to go on their own so that’s the time when we felt that.
Okay, definitely there is a need like this so then we studied various places we went and stayed in a lot of retirement homes senior homes and things like that so then we understood what are their needs so that’s the reason we came up with a kind of an apartment kind of a project rather than a villa okay where the people will be able to talk to each other and meet with them on a regular basis okay, so the whole concept we have designed it like a courtyard okay, then everyone will be able to interact with each other so easily.
Sumathy Anantharam – See if you remember earlier days we used to have a joint family where only thing is after 10 o’clock they finish all the work and all ladies come outside sit in the Courtyard they discuss, they chat they take it up and they were all healthy like, nobody had to motivate them to do anything and they were healthy till the last so we’re trying to get back that there is a community full of elders called youngsters who would be enjoying their life and their regular routine is taken over by us like they don’t have to worry about the cleaning of the house preparing of the food and then laundering their dresses and doing all their financial banking work and other things so. If we free them from all these things they can really look and enjoy their life which they have lost for quite some time on the family commitments true this thing.
Satish Rao – This thing, what courtyard that you talked about that brings to me very interesting thing because in my family also, my dad keeps saying that you know, earlier we used to sit and talk today there is no one to talk also yeah so it is a very integral part of our being human you know and specially at that age after your family commitments are through you want someone to listen to you talk to you and exchange ideas whatever it might be, you know whatever your interest might be at least someone is there to hear you out yeah I think that this provides a very good opportunity for you to do that. Because in a villa it is not possible. Even if you have a plan to set up a villa for retirement which might look good from the outside yeah But from their perspective, probably it makes more sense to be like in a community you know.
Sumathy & Anantharam – Because in villa, everyone gets confined to their own houses true And after sometime they are like, okay the weather is not good or what so ever they don’t feel like coming down. They won’t come out so then what will happen, they will start ordering the food in their room, so then food will come anyway. So then again we are making them confined to their rooms.
Sumathy Anantharam – So one more thing is in our community especially morning we have a nurse and a physiotherapist who are staying in-house in the project. So early morning as soon as we give them their bed coffee bed tea in their room we ask them to come out because we have various type of exercises. This is completely monitored and done through a Geriatric care. So that they really enjoy doing it because they have a different set of exercises.
As well as Laugher club will be there then they have a gym which will suit their requirement of movements and other things. Then we are also planning to have a therapeutic pool instead of a swimming pool If they have got a therapeutic pool. They sit inside 10 of them can sit inside and they can have the massages at the back and which will give them more happiness then we have spa room. There will be a physiotherapy room so all these things will make them more active and they can try to do a lot of things which they have not done In fact, in Anantharam’s club there is a person who started running in 74 And now he is 78 and he has done lot of marathon across the world Now his passion has shifted from being at home and started going out to the world to do marathons half marathons so they invent a lot of things within themselves if they are free yeah.
Or else it is a routine, mornings you get up you go to the kitchen prepare again tiffin prepare again lunch prepare get the ration do the daily work all these things are eliminated in our stay yeah, they are could be caught up there yes
Anantharam Varayur – In fact, even I have met one gentleman who had this epileptic right fits, he used to get so now like, he started running okay then he started cycling he is I think is almost more than 84 years or whatever it is he has done more than, I think about 50,000 kms of cycling okay so, And he is totally out of medicine again, okay He doesn’t take any medicine for his fits right So absolutely nothing, it has never occurred so earlier he was locked inside the house and all so now he is free. So, there are so many people like this.
Sumathy Anantharam – In fact, in Manasum, when we went to sell a project….. They wanted to buy, they called and we went to meet them Because, she said she is not mobile. She said, she cannot come out but she wanted to definitely be a part of our Manasum project. So she wanted to buy an apartment. So went to her house So her house door was closed And when we tapped, she said come in I cannot come out and receive you please come in. Then we went inside and it was a 2-bedroom house and one lady was just cleaning and it was not the living what we expected. And it was an independent house and house alone would fetch her 1.5cr to 2 cr. Atleast 1.5cr for sure, so we went inside, and we were worried why, and she was lying in the bed and she had a big cylinder next to her and she said She was hardly 65years and she was in a very good post when she was working and she was not married.
So after her retirement when she came and settled down here, she went to the doctor and the doctor said she had some lung problem and all. And she had to be on oxygen 24/7 so the oxygen cylinder was big and so she said, me moving around will be very difficult. That’s why I have been here and whatever I want the minimum I get it from the servant who comes Or somebody who comes gives it. And then we spoke to her for one hour and after that you believe it or not she came out to the gate to send us off. And say that I want to come to your place and stay because, this is what I wanted, the difference. In fact, she was asking Can I buy a small cylinder? Sophisticated, which is available. Which I can put it on a shoulder strap but it is 2 lakh rupees. Is it worth spending on me at this point of time?
That money was her question And we said absolutely fine I think we should spend much more because You have earned it all throughout your life to spend now true so please enjoy so that was the only sentence she wanted which made her to just get up out of the bed, remove the breathing thing, go to the gate and do it. And it works, it works definitely it works yeah.
Satish Rao – Very interesting! So Ananth, you were mentioning about the perspective that you want to integrate and design a few Manasum project you have done in such a way that lot of things are not like work or not like a chore for them, you know It’s like something which is a part of their daily routine So can you talk about that?
Anantharam Varayur – Yeah, that’s what see for example as we were mentioning, one is the courtyard kind of a concept and second thing is see for example there is a dining hall is there so minimum they have to walk to the dining hall at least 3 times per day yeah. Okay, for the breakfast lunch and dinner, that means when they come at least when they walk up to that. So they will be able to meet the people and then work with them and then we also want them to engage in various other activities like for example once in 15 days or once in a month take them to a walk or for a mall or a movie or what so ever it is so that means at least they will be able to spend time with them so here what happens in the independent houses when they are in the city. Like in Jayanagar itself I can see in this particular road at least there are more than 10 people they have literally become the Watchmens of the house big houses they are protecting for the children they are just protecting that’s all
Sumathy & Anantharam – And then everything they compromise like right from the food okay. Today I can’t go to the market and then buy the fruit or anything okay. 2 / 3 days they will skip, okay anything And if the prices goes up by even 10 / 20 rupees that vegetable is removed eliminated no problem without this also we can have.
Sumathy Anantharam – So the compromises are more when they start living by themselves after some age and the children say that, no you go and enjoy we don’t want the wealth yeah because we are also earning enough so you should enjoy so I think this is a good beginning for lot of people and even when we are in 40s and 50s planning for a retirement also become a part of our lifestyle because we don’t want to be dependent and definitely one thing that I want to emphasize is ladies also have to retire after 60s on cooking because gents feel that it’s only they get retirement.
They get old and ladies of the house work till their end is not right, and acceptable here the minute they stop cooking even they become independent and help us in a lot of other planning also right and I feel that has to be given to them and here in Manasum, we take care of the food and we give you, morning bed coffee bed tea 7:30 am continental breakfast afternoon again with soup and raw vegetables salad and phulka with sabji and rice rasam sambar curds again evening we have got coffee tea with biscuits and even night is also full-fledged this thing So in this newly we are introducing a chaat counter in the evening which they would have missed eating masala puri bhelpuri which they like it and under the supervision of one of the dietitian who is very much an expert.
We try to give 1-1 dish a day so that they can just enjoy the evening with the snack which they want to eat very interesting so both of you have got very interesting perspective about health and Wellness little diverse but then all going to the same phase and same zone
Satish Rao – Very true so, very interesting anything you would like to add Ananth
Anantharam Varayur – So, yeah anything like main thing is you know like initially you introduced me as a part of BNI so this BNI is a group of all business owners so here I want to just i mean bring the awareness of health with all these people because the moment you are a business owner what happens to the health is the last priority.
True, okay so they keep working for themselves true so that’s why we even formed a group called as fitness group so we have more than nearly 200 people in that initially when we started this fitness group we hardly had a few runners, okay now I think we have more than about 25 / 30 runners and many of them have done the half marathon, okay and then couple of them they have done full Marathon as well so now because of that there is a cycling group started. Okay so I think if you ask me fitness is like a contagious right, okay so you have to just start and trigger and once people get used to that it becomes like a routine.
Sumathy Anantharam – Not only that, I would like to add to what Ananth is saying yeah people think that only running is a fitness or cycling is a fitness in BNI, we have a 3CT tournament Cricket tournament right when we started this two or three years back it was 8 teams which was playing. Last year we had 36 teams which was playing and every year on year that many teams x 12 members you could see them active so we see them practicing, after their forties, in the field on Saturdays and Sundays, going for matches, gave them a lot of things and also we have come out with a Badminton trophy which also happened last year and there also we all had a lot of women and men participating. So what I want to tell is fitness is not only running and cycling but it is any other form you like to do, you do absolutely you will be good at sports, do sports, swimming… then swimming.. but something to keep yourself for yourself for some time that is what I feel make a lot of sense.
Satish Rao – Yeah I think Anantharam also agrees to that Yeah.
Anantharam Varayur – Definitely, I mean because I keep talking only about running because I like that so, definitely yeah, fitness and any form of fitness is perfectly fine i mean, as long as you want to keep your health see, in fact I don’t know how much whether it is true or what so ever it is so, when one of the very large businessman when he was looking for an investment ok, I believe the investors who came so they saw everything they have seen his financials and everything and finally when they wanted to close the deal they said that you are very obese, okay so because of this one reason I am not investing in your company right right okay, they said that what is the guarantee that my money is safe with you okay, so I was told that the deal fizzled off only for that reason okay, so just imagine so how important the fitness is okay, and now here we are not just responsible for us we are responsible for entire people who are dependent on us okay, only for that reason at least you should take care of yourself.
Satish Rao – True true, yeah
Sumathy Anantharam – Lastly just want to tell you, lot of international coaches have started that their CEO trainings and director trainings in such a way that they will start the trainings along with the marathon training and when they complete their life coaching or their business coaching this guy would have become a marathon runner so that has become a new trend in international coaching as well in business coaching itself it has become an integral part because they say when you start going for that runs you start disciplining yourself in lot of other fields which is required which comes as a by-product without your knowledge.
Because of which your achievement, your multitasking your lot of things easily comes out yeah so, thank you very much yeah, so there is no running away from taking responsibility for your own health correct, and keeping an aware mind set through all the possibilities of taking care of your health and being into the preventive healthcare space ultimately like Ananth talked about it it’s just not our health and our responsibility towards ourselves and our family but also extended family in terms of our employees and the teams and even the partners that we work with you know the suppliers the partners that we work with so you owe it to all of them and I think we are at the stage in India where business wise and productivity wise we do a lot of things and we make huge breakthroughs but unless we take care of our health I think it is all wasted yes. So thanks for bringing out this perspective I always say, please run for yourself, not for others.
Satish Rao – Yeah, so there is no running away from taking responsibility for your own health and keeping an aware mindset through all the possibilities of taking care of your health and being into the preventive healthcare space. Ulitmately like Ananrth talked about it’s not just our health and our responsibility towards ourselves and our family, but also extended family in terms of our employees and the teams, and even the partners that we work with you know, the suppliers, the partners that we work with. So you owe it to all of them and I think we are at the stage in India where business wise and productivity wise we do a lot of things and we make huge breakthroughs but unless we take care of our health I think it is all wasted. So thanks for bringing out this perspective.
Sumathy Anantharam – I always say, please run for yourself, not for others.
Thank you, thanks!